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	<title>Comments on: 122 gram rear derailleur</title>
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		<title>By: theremery</title>
		<link>http://www.cyclingtechblog.com/2008/12/17/122-gram-rear-derailleur/comment-page-1/#comment-2498</link>
		<dc:creator>theremery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2011 23:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have my red down to 117g with a fairly conservative tune and it still operates flawlessly. The lightweight rear mech is debateable for flawless operation even at it&#039;s full mass so cutting bits off such an expensive piece of kit is dodgy at best. The red simply does not need the spring within the mounting (pivot) bolt to operate perfectly so it&#039;s a redundant comparison. Perfect is perfect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have my red down to 117g with a fairly conservative tune and it still operates flawlessly. The lightweight rear mech is debateable for flawless operation even at it&#8217;s full mass so cutting bits off such an expensive piece of kit is dodgy at best. The red simply does not need the spring within the mounting (pivot) bolt to operate perfectly so it&#8217;s a redundant comparison. Perfect is perfect.</p>
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		<title>By: Vale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Apr 2011 18:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Nico,

Great job! I&#039;ve read your experiment a couple of times, and liked the way the job turned out.

I&#039;d just like to say a few words in favor of the Lightweight RD :)

I&#039;m not an Sram owner but understand that the Sram road derailleurs only have one pivot spring. I.e. the upper pivot spring, the one at the bolt for mounting the RD onto the hanger, is missing on the Red, and present on shimano and campy derailleurs. Not that there&#039;s anything wrong with it, Red seems to work fine woithout one.

Just saying you need to compare apples to apples. 
Is the Lightweight RD also a single spring one? 
I think not, judging by the pictures that show a &quot;hanger stopping tab&quot; (is it called like that?) at around 3 o&#039;clock of the RD mounting bolt. (far too much forward for a RD with an unsprung upper pivot.) The Red one , for instance, has that tab at aorund 6 o&#039;clock compared to the same bolt, if positioned the same way as the lightweight pictured above...

I think some builders opt for such 2 spring construction for smoother shifting? not sure though. Anyway I guess the Lightwieght RD has some extra structural elements compared to the RED. 
Remove those and the Lightweight will drop some more weight.. and -might-  still function properly maybe less smooth.. or not at all any more :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Nico,</p>
<p>Great job! I&#8217;ve read your experiment a couple of times, and liked the way the job turned out.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d just like to say a few words in favor of the Lightweight RD <img src='http://www.cyclingtechblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not an Sram owner but understand that the Sram road derailleurs only have one pivot spring. I.e. the upper pivot spring, the one at the bolt for mounting the RD onto the hanger, is missing on the Red, and present on shimano and campy derailleurs. Not that there&#8217;s anything wrong with it, Red seems to work fine woithout one.</p>
<p>Just saying you need to compare apples to apples.<br />
Is the Lightweight RD also a single spring one?<br />
I think not, judging by the pictures that show a &#8220;hanger stopping tab&#8221; (is it called like that?) at around 3 o&#8217;clock of the RD mounting bolt. (far too much forward for a RD with an unsprung upper pivot.) The Red one , for instance, has that tab at aorund 6 o&#8217;clock compared to the same bolt, if positioned the same way as the lightweight pictured above&#8230;</p>
<p>I think some builders opt for such 2 spring construction for smoother shifting? not sure though. Anyway I guess the Lightwieght RD has some extra structural elements compared to the RED.<br />
Remove those and the Lightweight will drop some more weight.. and -might-  still function properly maybe less smooth.. or not at all any more <img src='http://www.cyclingtechblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Nico</title>
		<link>http://www.cyclingtechblog.com/2008/12/17/122-gram-rear-derailleur/comment-page-1/#comment-2468</link>
		<dc:creator>Nico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2011 21:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t do any sanding or filing on my Red derailleur. Sorry I can&#039;t be much help to you here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t do any sanding or filing on my Red derailleur. Sorry I can&#8217;t be much help to you here.</p>
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		<title>By: Rako</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rako</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 01:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what did you use to file / sand the Red derailleur? got a scratch on mine i am looking to smooth out...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what did you use to file / sand the Red derailleur? got a scratch on mine i am looking to smooth out&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nico</title>
		<link>http://www.cyclingtechblog.com/2008/12/17/122-gram-rear-derailleur/comment-page-1/#comment-1865</link>
		<dc:creator>Nico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 12:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s true, I do need help. But my friends tell me exactly the opposite -- they tell me I should ride and race less... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s true, I do need help. But my friends tell me exactly the opposite &#8212; they tell me I should ride and race less&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: yes 2 grams makes a difference</title>
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		<dc:creator>yes 2 grams makes a difference</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 12:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You need help. Go out and race and stop talking about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You need help. Go out and race and stop talking about it.</p>
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